Last year at a pet blogging conference called BlogPaws, I attended a session presented by Robbin and Joseph Everett, hosts of the popular live web radio show “Pets Teach Us So Much.” Their session was engaging, highly informative and fun — there was candy! Naturally, Robbin and Joe’s radio show itself is all these qualities too, minus the free candy.
One episode of their show in particular grabbed my attention. They interviewed veterinarian Michel Selmer of Long Island, N.Y., who specializes in holistic/integrative care and pet nutrition. Dr. Selmer talked about how the dog food industry is “flawed in so many ways,” and revealed what he feeds his own dog.
I know Pets Adviser readers are very interested in nutrition, so I got Robbin and Joe’s permission to transcribe and publish part of their interview here. “A big YES!” they said. And so an edited version of that interview follows below.
A big thanks to Robbin and Joe. Please visit their blog, their Facebook page (lots of funny photos), and especially check out their show — which is now the number-one rated web radio show for animal lovers.
Benefits of a Natural Diet for Pets
Robbin: Can you tell us, on a day-to-day basis, what you see when people come in for nutrition? What kind of advice are they looking for on better nutrition?
Dr. Selmer: Well, typically when people come in to see me, they’ve seen a number of veterinarians before and their main concern is that they have been given a lot of medications, whether they’re herbal or traditional, and no one’s ever really gotten to the cause of the problem with their pets. And what we have found is that you kinda are what you eat.
And when we analyze what these dogs are eating, we see a lot of flaws — and those lead to weaknesses in the body’s metabolic processes and how things work. If you fuel a car better, the engine is going to run better. So the people come to me looking for their pets to be healthier.
Robbin: Then what happens when people come in, and what do they find to be the most surprising about pet food nutrition? Because it is confusing out there!
Dr. Selmer: Well, I think that the biggest surprise is the dog food industry itself. It’s flawed in so many ways that it’s hard to get your pet good nutrition out of a package. Besides, most over-the-counter dog foods are marketed more toward human nutritional needs than dog nutritional needs — and it’s all marketing. They try to give you this perceived value. You see all the commercials on TV and how healthy it is.
But you know, a funny thing happened years ago: A veterinarian actually submitted to the FDA shoe leather — cranked it and had it pelleted into a food, and sent it to the FDA for approval for dog food — and it was approved!
Dr. Selmer: The other interesting fact is that they did a nutritional analysis on cereal for people and compared the boxes, and they found that the box tends to have more nutritional value than the cereal.
Joe: I could believe that.
Dr. Selmer: Yeah, so if we are feeding our pets out of a bag or out of a box every meal of its day, what kind of nutrition could we possibly be giving them? What I’m trying to do is bring these people back to basics.
Joe: Exactly, Doctor. What do you feed your dog?
Dr. Selmer: My dog is actually on a raw food diet. So basically, what we do is we do a food allergy testing to make sure we don’t have any allergies to any food items, and then we use the most wholesome, human-grade, organic-level food to give them the best possible nutrition that they can have.
An Important Note to Our Readers
The benefits of raw diets versus cooked diets remain unproven; research is ongoing. One thing is certain: There are definitely health RISKS (for animal and human alike) associated with feeding your pet raw food. For more on these risks, see Don’t Give That Dog a Bone, by Debora Lichtenberg, VMD.
If you do decide to feed raw, Pets Adviser strongly urges you to go with a commercial brand that meets AAFCO standards for a balanced diet, and we do not recommend bones. Consult your veterinarian.
Robbin: But what’s confusing about that to me — and I have to be honest with you on this one — is with the places where people can purchase manufactured raw food, we have seen recalls. Not that we haven’t seen recalls with other food as well. But I’m always afraid that this is not really regulated. Can you share some of your personal experience with raw food?
Joe: I’m not cutting the doctor off, but with what he just said in regards to what the FDA lets get past it, what is the safest? I would go with the raw.
Dr. Selmer: Well, think about it common sense-wise, what’s the safest food that we have available to us?
Robbin: Organic, natural fresh food.
Dr. Selmer: Right. From the supermarket, right? Well that’s where my dog food comes from. I buy food that’s designed for us. And just like the general rule, the closer to the earth the food item comes from, usually the healthier and more bioavailable the nutrition is. So, I wouldn’t feed my kids cereal three times a day. I try to give them wholesome, nutritional foods — which are the same things I try to give my dog.
Now, the difference is you need someone who is educated and can guide you in the proper path of designing that food, because it’s not the same as feeding your child. And that’s what my fear is with people when I say to them, Feed your dog a raw diet or a home-prepared human food diet. They all go out and start buying stuff for their dog, and they have no guidance. So they really need to know that they need to be guided by a professional.
Robbin: So, like Happy Meals, definitely not.
Dr. Selmer: Right. Bad idea, but also bad idea for you and me, right?
Robbin: Right. So, what would you say is the best way to get better nutrition for pets?
Dr. Selmer: You need to find a veterinarian you can trust — one that has a background in nutrition and is willing to spend the time with you to go over it. Once you have that, that professional should be able to guide you properly. So, for example, my clients, now we will give them an actual proportion diet to shop for. And if they don’t want to do that, we actually have companies we deal with that will prepare the foods for them and deliver them fresh weekly.
Robbin: That is cool.
Dr. Selmer: Right. And then what people don’t understand is that it may cost a little more per meal to feed your dog that, but think of the potential health-care savings you could have if the dog’s healthier.
Joe: It’s preventive maintenance, and it’s the same thing with humans.
Dr. Selmer: When people look at food, they have to look at it the same as a prescription. Everything you put in your mouth or your dog’s mouth is going to have an effect on your body. If you eat a cheeseburger, it’s going to have positive and negative effects. If you pop an aspirin, it’s going to have positive and negative effects. If you take white tree bark, it’s going to have positive and negative effects.
So what I try to tell everyone is let’s look at everything we put in the dog’s mouth as a prescription and then it’s going to have an effect on the body, and that levels the playing field.
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Don’t miss Part 2 of this interview; Dr. Selmer discusses food allergies.
Dr. Michel Selmer, DVM, is the founder of Advanced Animal Care Center in Huntington Station, N.Y. He focuses on holistic or integrative veterinary medicine, considering all aspects of the animal’s life as well as the combination of conventional and alternative treatments. Dr. Selmer is an accredited member of the New York State Veterinary Medical Society as well as the American Animal Hospital Association (AAHA) and was the vice president of the Long Island Veterinary Medical Society.
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